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Wow, you are trying to accomplish what I want to, though I never had the means to acquire land. I've been trying to figure out how I can live off the land, getting back to nature, whatever, i don't like this govt's setup and I wish to fend for myself and accept all responsibilities for my actions. I would much rather contribute to a community that was contributing to it's people.
I'm 27, currently living in Saint John, New Brunswick and desperately want to relocate. I have no money, but I am capable of working hard to do what it takes to get anything off the ground. I especially like the idea of helping form a community. I'm an artist at heart (musician/philosopher/writer/painter/etc). I am not afraid of starting with nothing.
Recently separated from my wife, who left for the UK with my daughter, I have nothing tying me to these social constraints anymore. If i do not live to my full potential as a man, how can I provide for my daughter in the future? As it is right now, I'm unable to provide for her, and it's killing me. I want to be a good father, but unfortunately due to the distance, it's not very realistic right now. So I need to better myself, learn what i can, live how I would like to and not give in to a slave wage to pay my rent. Circumstances are pointing my in this direction and I am fully embracing it.
I'm new to this whole idea, but am more than willing to learn what I have to in order to live an honest life. But at the same time, I know me just showing up at this point may not be what's required, but I offer any assistance that I can, be it ideas or what not, i'm more than capable of thinking and researching different stuff for ya.
Let me know if i can help in any way
I'm 27, currently living in Saint John, New Brunswick and desperately want to relocate. I have no money, but I am capable of working hard to do what it takes to get anything off the ground. I especially like the idea of helping form a community. I'm an artist at heart (musician/philosopher/writer/painter/etc). I am not afraid of starting with nothing.
Recently separated from my wife, who left for the UK with my daughter, I have nothing tying me to these social constraints anymore. If i do not live to my full potential as a man, how can I provide for my daughter in the future? As it is right now, I'm unable to provide for her, and it's killing me. I want to be a good father, but unfortunately due to the distance, it's not very realistic right now. So I need to better myself, learn what i can, live how I would like to and not give in to a slave wage to pay my rent. Circumstances are pointing my in this direction and I am fully embracing it.
I'm new to this whole idea, but am more than willing to learn what I have to in order to live an honest life. But at the same time, I know me just showing up at this point may not be what's required, but I offer any assistance that I can, be it ideas or what not, i'm more than capable of thinking and researching different stuff for ya.
Let me know if i can help in any way
christopheshea- Posts: 2
Join date: 2011-11-28
Location: Saint John, NB
Re: Chris
Welcome Chris!
It's a help just having someone sign up and say hi. I guess for right now the one thing this community needs most is members. So welcome to the online portion of the community where we can figure out how to turn that into something more real.
Sorry to hear about your wife and daughter. It must be hard to have them an ocean away. I hear you on wanting to avoid the government and wage slavery. I wish it was that easy though, I still have a job for now and the foreseeable future, and the local council still needs to be okay with what I do here.
I'm curious though, why is Saint John so bad? Before I bought this I was considering moving out that direction. Land is certainly cheaper in NB than here in SK. The weather can't be that much worse either, can it?
It's a help just having someone sign up and say hi. I guess for right now the one thing this community needs most is members. So welcome to the online portion of the community where we can figure out how to turn that into something more real.
Sorry to hear about your wife and daughter. It must be hard to have them an ocean away. I hear you on wanting to avoid the government and wage slavery. I wish it was that easy though, I still have a job for now and the foreseeable future, and the local council still needs to be okay with what I do here.
I'm curious though, why is Saint John so bad? Before I bought this I was considering moving out that direction. Land is certainly cheaper in NB than here in SK. The weather can't be that much worse either, can it?

Lorne G2- Posts: 19
Join date: 2011-10-12
Re: Chris
Well, Irving owns most of the hospitable areas, though, military have a pretty big base, which I'd stay away from, Case of Agent Orange back in the Vietnam days, contaminated a lot of drinking water. Anyway, various other reasons, Not a big fan of the bush here, in winter everything just dies. I love the coast, and it's one thing I eventually need in my life, I like water. The scenery is beautiful, but all the good spots are either provincial parks, sectioned off for forestry, or developed with townhouses and duplex.
That's a good question really, I'm sure there are plenty of spots around the province somewhere. I think it's more of an emotional thing, i plan to practice in my area this winter, just going winter camping for a week or so and get a feel, because I guess I really don't know other than I'm just fed up with NB. In central/northern part of the province, the snow is incredible, Saint John area is by far the most temperate, though we get the occasional hurricane, the temperatures vary considerably, saint john, say avg winter temp at -15-20 Celsius, but in Fredericton, nestled in a river valley, but central to the province, is very humid, so temperatures can go down to -36 Celsius, but typically it avgs -20-25 Celsius throughout the winter.
Just depends really, and the East Coast, Acadian, beautiful shoreline, tons of fishing, lobster and scallops and the like, but it's falling into the ocean. Gets hit by massive storms, storms surges, not very often, but at least once or twice a year they get messed up something fierce. Lucky in Saint John, just blows right by us, we get hit, but not bad, Where we're right on the Bay, any moisture humidity gets pushed right out, so usually keeps fronts away from the actual coast, but once in a while, holy moly, fun times, but I'm not sure I'd want to be in the middle of the woods in a shack in those conditions, not unless you had proper housing. I just find the areas I've camped at barren, lots of rabbit and squirrel, berries and the like, but only for say 4-5 months of the year. Farming is definitely seasonal, to be expected, but farmers are even having a hard go at it these days (who isn't though) Focusing on potatoes may not have been the best choice, there are better operations popping up, but you'd just have to go and find them.
I know about the job thing, I just quit a job that was taking my energy in the wrong direction. Insolvency Counselor for a Bankruptcy firm, and honestly, if i was satisfied with living the businessman type lifestyle, i was really set, i could get pretty rich in that field, especially here in NB, (poor us). But I couldn't stand being so hypocritical, tried to stick through it, didn't have anything better lined up, but eventually I succumbed to knowing I had to do something else, and I recently just quit. So here I am, and now i refuse to do a job, unless it's constructive in some way, if i have to "sell out" and get a job, I'm well experienced in the fastfood industry, hehe.
As it stands right now, I've considered my apartment lost, or rather, letting it go, and going to live with my sister in St Martins, nice fishing village. I'm going to help out with her husband on his boat, whatever I can, cook, clean, whatever it is they do with the lobsters after they catch em, hehe. Do that to pay my keep, as well as seriously do some recording with my sister before she goes crazy, hehe. This winter, I'm going to plan and talk and research and see what happens. Do some music so that I can say I did something, hehe. Taking life as it comes, the past will come back, and when it does, i'll be ready
So, I'm glad to be apart of figuring how to make it work, not sure where to begin though, I have some very vague and abstract ideas about what I'd do as an individual in a community, but the community itself, what would I be proud of, like setting an example for the future. People living together, making sure they are more than capable of surviving by doing their share of the work, but also respecting each individual to pursue whatever it is they want to pursue, of course, such pursuits would have to be accepted by the community at large in so far as it causes no harm to the individual or anyone else, (intentional I suppose, trial and error will be a factor for figuring out what works and what doesn't, obviously) and be somewhat constructive for the community at large, meaning do whatever you want in your own time, but also throw your weight around and grow some food for everyone, help out with building proper houses for people, taking part in group decisions, etc.
The whole idea is to give people the freedom to live how they want to live, and if we all share an honest work to survive and thrive, we can have it, rather than be put down by the forces at bay who hold freedom over our heads as propaganda, for a corporate agenda, many conspiracy theories could follow, but what it all boils down to, i don't agree with how things are run in my community/city/province/country politically wise, and i want to just take responsibility for my actions and be as honest with myself and the world at large as possible. Figuring out how to make a community like this work would be an honour
That's a good question really, I'm sure there are plenty of spots around the province somewhere. I think it's more of an emotional thing, i plan to practice in my area this winter, just going winter camping for a week or so and get a feel, because I guess I really don't know other than I'm just fed up with NB. In central/northern part of the province, the snow is incredible, Saint John area is by far the most temperate, though we get the occasional hurricane, the temperatures vary considerably, saint john, say avg winter temp at -15-20 Celsius, but in Fredericton, nestled in a river valley, but central to the province, is very humid, so temperatures can go down to -36 Celsius, but typically it avgs -20-25 Celsius throughout the winter.
Just depends really, and the East Coast, Acadian, beautiful shoreline, tons of fishing, lobster and scallops and the like, but it's falling into the ocean. Gets hit by massive storms, storms surges, not very often, but at least once or twice a year they get messed up something fierce. Lucky in Saint John, just blows right by us, we get hit, but not bad, Where we're right on the Bay, any moisture humidity gets pushed right out, so usually keeps fronts away from the actual coast, but once in a while, holy moly, fun times, but I'm not sure I'd want to be in the middle of the woods in a shack in those conditions, not unless you had proper housing. I just find the areas I've camped at barren, lots of rabbit and squirrel, berries and the like, but only for say 4-5 months of the year. Farming is definitely seasonal, to be expected, but farmers are even having a hard go at it these days (who isn't though) Focusing on potatoes may not have been the best choice, there are better operations popping up, but you'd just have to go and find them.
I know about the job thing, I just quit a job that was taking my energy in the wrong direction. Insolvency Counselor for a Bankruptcy firm, and honestly, if i was satisfied with living the businessman type lifestyle, i was really set, i could get pretty rich in that field, especially here in NB, (poor us). But I couldn't stand being so hypocritical, tried to stick through it, didn't have anything better lined up, but eventually I succumbed to knowing I had to do something else, and I recently just quit. So here I am, and now i refuse to do a job, unless it's constructive in some way, if i have to "sell out" and get a job, I'm well experienced in the fastfood industry, hehe.
As it stands right now, I've considered my apartment lost, or rather, letting it go, and going to live with my sister in St Martins, nice fishing village. I'm going to help out with her husband on his boat, whatever I can, cook, clean, whatever it is they do with the lobsters after they catch em, hehe. Do that to pay my keep, as well as seriously do some recording with my sister before she goes crazy, hehe. This winter, I'm going to plan and talk and research and see what happens. Do some music so that I can say I did something, hehe. Taking life as it comes, the past will come back, and when it does, i'll be ready
So, I'm glad to be apart of figuring how to make it work, not sure where to begin though, I have some very vague and abstract ideas about what I'd do as an individual in a community, but the community itself, what would I be proud of, like setting an example for the future. People living together, making sure they are more than capable of surviving by doing their share of the work, but also respecting each individual to pursue whatever it is they want to pursue, of course, such pursuits would have to be accepted by the community at large in so far as it causes no harm to the individual or anyone else, (intentional I suppose, trial and error will be a factor for figuring out what works and what doesn't, obviously) and be somewhat constructive for the community at large, meaning do whatever you want in your own time, but also throw your weight around and grow some food for everyone, help out with building proper houses for people, taking part in group decisions, etc.
The whole idea is to give people the freedom to live how they want to live, and if we all share an honest work to survive and thrive, we can have it, rather than be put down by the forces at bay who hold freedom over our heads as propaganda, for a corporate agenda, many conspiracy theories could follow, but what it all boils down to, i don't agree with how things are run in my community/city/province/country politically wise, and i want to just take responsibility for my actions and be as honest with myself and the world at large as possible. Figuring out how to make a community like this work would be an honour
christopheshea- Posts: 2
Join date: 2011-11-28
Location: Saint John, NB
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